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Help on Mesh network.
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freejazz
2021-03-04 12:13:34 UTC
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Hi, I'd like to know what are the differences between a Mesh wifi
network and a non-Mesh one.
I"m going to set a non-Mesh WiFi network one but I'm going to
assign the same SSID, passwords, etc. at my powerline and access
points..
The switching to the different wifi points when I walk in the
different my house's areas 1) is not the same management of Mesh
WiFi system? What are the differences?
In a Mesh network if you connect to the different points 2) will
you have short drop of connections as you are in a non-Mesh
one?
Thanks for your help!!!!
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Grant Taylor
2021-03-04 17:43:20 UTC
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Post by freejazz
Hi, I'd like to know what are the differences between a Mesh wifi
network and a non-Mesh one.
My understanding is that mesh (WiFi) networks use the WiFi back haul to
the rest of the network (usually the gateway to the Internet.
Conversely, non-mesh networks used wired connections back to the rest of
the network.

Mesh also tends to imply that each AP has connections to multiple other
APs. Thus if one AP goes down, it does not break / split communications
of the overall network. Consider the following:

[AP]---[AP]---[AP]---[AP]---[AP]

If any one of the middle APs stop working, then end to end connectivity
is broken.

[AP]---[AP]---[AP]---[AP]---[AP]
\ / \ / \ / \ /
X X X X
/ \ / \ / \ / \
[AP]---[AP]---[AP]---[AP]---[AP]

If any one of the middle APs stop working, there are multiple alternate
pats protecting the end to end connectivity.

To support this, mesh networks have some additional complexity to manage
the redundancy that non-mesh networks don't have.
Post by freejazz
I"m going to set a non-Mesh WiFi network one but I'm going to assign
the same SSID, passwords, etc. at my powerline and access points..
This has more to do with the mode that the APs are in, Basic (as in
BSSID) or Extended (as in ESSID). Basic is just a bunch of independent
APs. Extended is the APs working in concert with each other to
streamline hand off between APs.

I believe you can brute force things and have a bunch of APs in BSSID
mode with the same SSID (but on different, non-conflicting channels, 1,
6, and 11) to cause client devices to choose between the best
(strongest) signal. However, this type of hand off is probably visible
to end devices.

Conversely APs in ESSID mode work to streamline the hand off between APs
and as such make it much less likely that clients will notice anything.

Not that the BSSID vs ESSID has nothing in and of itself to do with mesh
vs non-mesh. -- Again, my understanding is.... -- Mesh vs non-mesh
has to do with the connectivity from each individual AP back to the rest
of the network, not what client's see and how they interact with the APs.
Post by freejazz
The switching to the different wifi points when I walk in the
different my house's areas 1) is not the same management of Mesh WiFi
system? What are the differences?
I hope I answered this above.
Post by freejazz
In a Mesh network if you connect to the different points 2) will you
have short drop of connections as you are in a non-Mesh one?
As described above, this has more to do with BSSID vs ESSID mode and
very little to do with mesh vs non-mesh.
Post by freejazz
Thanks for your help!!!!
You're welcome.
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freejazz
2021-03-16 15:13:17 UTC
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On 3/4/21 5:13 AM, freejazz wrote:> Hi, I'd like to know what are the differences between a Mesh w
Thanks for your precious reply.
I had to study a bit for your technical reply..
But I wonder about the "backing to haul in the network" what does
it mean exactly because I think is in there the real difference
between the two modes (Mesh vs non-Mesh).
I know that a Mesh network can manage the APs in different ways
through the band freqs and which AP is the bes to use for the
clients..
These years I've been using a TpLink 4220 kit with no-Mesh feature
and I have to admit that they are very reliable and I never have
connection drops and the speed reaches about 60Mb/s on ethernet
output from the receiver.
(At home I have got a 200Mb/s peak Internet VDSL)
Recently I've tried a Fritz 1260/1220 powerline adapters kit as
I'm using a Fritzbox 7530 router to set a Mesh network but I
can't reach 70 Mb/s even as peak speed and the network's internet
connection fails and I have to restart the router.
I know that it's a different matter and the speed is affected by
many factors as the state of the wires in my power line,
etc...

About the handing-off between APs in BSSD vs ESSD why did you
write that handing-off of APs for the latter is not seen by
clients?
I admit I have some lack of basis knowledge...:-P
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